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Scripture: God’s Gift, part 3

This article is part three of a six-part series by Gary Deddo on interpreting Scripture. For part one, click here. For part two, click here.

Guidelines for approaching Scripture reverently with prayer by faith

Since, as we have been discussing, Scripture is the gift of God, where God has graciously promised to speak to us through his living Word, what, then, are some guidelines for approaching it? I think the first thing needing to be said is that we must approach it reverently with a desire to be addressed, to hear a word from God. This attitude is probably best demonstrated when we start with prayer to God, the God of the Bible. In prayer we acknowledge that we look for and anticipate receiving a word from God himself, that is, hearing from the Living Word through the written word by the Spirit. It shows we are ready to listen, to hear. And we express in prayer that we want to hear what the Lord has to say to us. That is, we listen as his children, as his sheep, not as one of his advisers or as an engineer might seek impersonal information about some empirical object or law of physics perhaps to use for some other purpose.

In prayer, we also acknowledge that we depend upon the Lord and his grace to speak in a way that we can receive. That is, we listen by faith, as we trust that the Lord does speak and knows how to get through to us, the dumb sheep! Listening to Scripture as God’s holy word is an act of faith in the God whose word it is. We read or listen to Scripture by faith in the grace of God, just as we do in every other response of ours to God. We listen and study Scripture by faith.

This means that we do not put our trust in our techniques for studying the Bible no matter how simple or how sophisticated they are. And we aren’t just mining for data, for information, for formulas or principles or for truths that we can possess or use for our own ends or purposes. In prayer we place ourselves before the living Lord trusting that he will make himself known to us and enable us to hear and follow him wherever he takes us. Faithful prayer to the Living God of the Bible is essential for our preparation for listening to Scripture.

God’s agenda, not ours

Second, listening to Scripture as God speaking to us means letting it set the agenda for us, according to the nature and purposes God has for giving us the gift of his word. This means that we’ll come to Scripture not to give us, first, exactly what we’re looking for, such as answers to our current or even pressing questions, but to show us what the right questions are and what issues have priority in God’s view. We will not force Scripture to answer questions that it is not designed to answer nor give priority to some concern or issue we have that does not match with the priorities and central matters of Scripture itself. We’ll be open to having our mind reshaped to reflect the mind of Christ and what he views as of first-order importance.

The primacy of the WHO? question

And what is the central thrust of biblical revelation? It is to make known the identity, character, heart, purpose and nature of God. Scripture is primarily designed to answer the question, “Who is God?” So our primary question in reading and listening to Scripture ought to be, “Who are you, Lord?” That’s the first and most important question that ought to be on our hearts and minds as we study Scripture. No matter what passage we’re dealing with, our primary concern ought to be: “What is God telling me about himself in this passage?”

We’ll need to put in second place our questions of What? How? Why? When? and Where? In fact, these questions can only be rightly answered by putting the Who? question first. In many church settings the most difficult question needing to be put on the back burner is this: “What am I supposed to be doing for God?” We are so anxious to discover what God wants us to do for him that we often overlook the most foundational aspect of Scripture which involves revealing, clarifying and reminding us of God’s nature, character, heart, purpose and aim. It’s far more important to know who it is we’re obeying, than to attempt to do the right thing. In fact, we can’t even accurately discern what God wants us to do, and in what way to do it, unless we act out of knowing and trusting in this God according to who he is. Only then will our attitude and motives and the character of our actions match or bear witness to God’s own character. Only then will we find that his commandments are not burdensome and that his yoke is easy and his burden is light. So we need to read the Bible and listen to preaching in order to see more deeply into who God is.

I should also add that the greatest and most damaging deception we can fall into is being misled about the nature and character of God. Being misled or deceived about who God is undermines our faith, which is in turn the foundation of our whole response to God. With our faith or trust in God undermined or twisted, all the rest will collapse too: our worship, our prayer, our listening to Scripture, our obedience, our hope and our love for God and for neighbor. Our faith is a response to who we perceive God to really be. When that is properly aligned, then the Christian life is enlivened and energized even under difficult situations. When it is distorted, we then attempt to run the Christian life with ropes tangled around our feet. So being reminded daily of the truth of who God is must be our top priority—matching the priority of the structure and aim of both the written and the Living Word of God.

Jesus Christ, the Center of the center

Third, as we do so, we’ll have as the center and norm of our knowledge and trust in God all of what Scripture says about Jesus Christ. Oriented to this living Center of the center, we’ll want to see how the Old Testament points and prepares us to recognize him. Jesus Christ is God’s answer to the Who question—in person, in time and space, in flesh and blood—that ancient Israel sought to know. In Jesus Christ, “What you see is what you get.” In him the whole God is personally present, active and speaking. Jesus is the interpretive key to all of Scripture, for in him we see and hear the heartbeat of God. We watch and hear the motions of his heart and mind, even his Spirit, the Holy Spirit. The light we find shining forth from the face of Jesus sheds light on all of Scripture, for in him the God of the whole Bible has personally revealed himself.

So we ought to read and interpret Scripture in a way that through it all, in one way or another, we come to see how it points towards and finds its fulfillment in Jesus Christ. Think of this as a process much like reading a murder mystery novel for the second time. The first time through, at the end, you finally come to discover “who done it.” The second time through is a much different experience. You can see in a new light how all the clues early on in the mystery pointed to “who done it.” You appreciate the clues (and recognize the false leads) even more the second time through. But the clues are not the solution. Their value is how they indicate or are signs pointing to the resolution of the mystery.

This means that central to our study and understanding of the whole Bible should be the person and acts of Jesus. This calls for giving a certain priority to and focus on the Gospels. This does not mean narrowing our attention simply to the words or teaching of Jesus, as some “red letter” Bibles might tempt us to do. Rather, this means placing at center stage all of what the Gospels tell us about who Jesus is. This will include his own words, actions and self-interpretations (think, for example, of all the “I am” statements in John), but also make use of those texts that answer most directly who Jesus is, not only in the Gospels but also throughout the rest of the New Testament.

Who Jesus is in relationship to the Father and the Holy Spirit

As we prayerfully begin to listen to Scripture concentrating on the Who question as answered by God himself in Jesus, you’ll find that the primary way Jesus is identified involves his relationship to God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. The answer to the Who? question is intrinsically bound up with grasping the nature, character, purpose and aim of Jesus in relationship with the Father and Spirit. For Jesus primarily and consistently identifies himself by means of those relationships. He is the one sent from the Father, the one who has been eternally with and eternally loved by the Father. He is the One who has the Spirit and who has come to give us his Holy Spirit.

The highest concentration on the importance of Jesus’ relationships with the Father and Spirit comes in the Gospel of John, reaching the apex in John 17. To know Jesus is to know the Father. To know the Father means recognizing who Jesus is. Interacting with Jesus means dealing directly and personally with the Father and the Spirit.

So in our Bible study and preaching we must pay attention to the quality and nature of Jesus’ relationship and interactions with the Father and Spirit. For he is, in his being, the Son of the Father, one with his Spirit. Pay special attention to anywhere in Scripture where we’re given insight into the relationships of the Father, Son and Spirit. For in those relationships we will see and hear most directly, personally and concretely who the God of the Bible is. And in returning to that living Center of the center, again and again we’ll find our faith nourished and growing with a life of joyful obedience flowing out of it.

With the Center of our prayer, faith, devotion and worship set, as a kind of North Star, everything else regarding listening to and studying the Lord’s Scripture gets properly oriented.

George Hart

George and Vicky Hart
George and Vicki Hart

“My father died when I was four years old,” shares George Hart who is a district pastor and the senior pastor of GCI’s Cincinnati East congregation. “Growing up without a father had a tremendous impact on me. It caused me to become very self-sufficient.”

“I started working when I was eight years old, trucking tobacco with mules. At sixteen I bought a new car and was able to pay my way through school. If I needed or wanted something I bought it myself. My self-sufficiency served me well for years until it all came crashing in on me about ten years ago.

“My self-sufficiency had become my messiah and a roadblock in my relationship with the Father. I never knew I had a Father until one night he showed up and revealed himself to me through Psalm 146. He had been with me all those years and I never knew it. It was an experience that changed my life. I still struggle with my self-sufficiency, but my Father has been patient with me.”

Growing up in eastern North Carolina, George fell in love with the beach. “When I was in high school my buddies and I went to the beach almost every weekend in the summer, sometimes sleeping in the car or on the beach. I’ve always loved the coast and today it is where I feel closest to God. I can walk the shore or just sit and watch the surf for hours. There is something haunting and mystical about the ocean that calls to me. My favorite place is Ocracoke, on the outer banks of North Carolina. It’s about a two and a half hour ferry ride to get to anywhere.”

George came into contact with WCG in December 1973. “I used to listen to Cousin Brucie on radio station WABC out of New York City. One night I could not pick up his broadcast so started searching the dial for something to listen to. I came across a broadcast of an older gentleman–HWA (Herbert Armstrong) and the first words I heard out of his mouth were, “Why were you born?” Those words resonated with me at a deep level because that was something that I had been thinking about for about two years. I continued to listen to HWA for several months. At the end of each broadcast they would mention Ambassador College. In spring 1974 I wrote for an application and was accepted for August 1974. I had not attended a church service or really knew anything about the church before showing up in Big Sandy, Texas. In the first several months I almost left a dozen times but felt in my spirit this was where I belonged and where I would discover ‘why I was born.’”

The first sermon George heard was about makeup. “I don’t recall whether makeup was coming in or going out, and I thought it was a strange topic. However, what struck me was a willingness to change when you thought you were wrong. That willingness is inherent in our denomination and led to an examination of the Bible under Joseph Tkach, Sr. The rest of that story is our common history.”

George met Vicki Wetzel in college and they married soon after graduation. “Vicki and I are in our 36th year of marriage.  We have two children. Erin is married and lives in Nashville, Tennessee with her husband Craig. She works in the social services industry. Erin is expecting our first grandchild in early August. Our son Bryan lives in Columbus, Ohio and works as a financial business specialist for Nationwide Insurance.”

After graduating from college, George and Vicki decided to settle in Greensboro, North Carolina, “because we heard the church there was looking for AC grads and we wanted to serve in whatever way we could. I was working for Fairchild Industries as the contracts and negotiations manager when Dan Rogers ordained me as an elder. About two years later Dan asked me one day after services how much money I made. I told him and he asked, ‘Would you work for less money?’ I said, ‘There is only one thing I’d do for less money.’ Dan said, ‘I’ve recommended you to do it.’ The funny thing is, neither of us said what that thing was, but Joe Tkach, Sr. called me the next week and hired me to full-time ministry. We have served in Greensboro and Winston-Salem, North Carolina; Augusta and Dublin, Georgia; Birmingham and Jasper, Alabama; Buffalo and Olean, New York; and Cincinnati, Ohio.”

Today, in addition to serving as a GCI district pastor and church pastor, George serves on the board of The Office of Reconciliation and Mediation (ORM) and as Chairman of the Board for Equipping Ministries International (EMI), a para-church ministry in Cincinnati.

While George has many memorable moments as a pastor, he said an unusual one was having a federal lawsuit filed against him for violating someone’s civil rights when pastoring in Birmingham. “Long story with a good ending,” he says. Though preaching is George’s favorite part of being a pastor, his spiritual passion is life transformation. “If the gospel is not holistic healing the mind, body and soul, to me it is not the gospel.”

George has other passions as well. “I love working with power tools. My garage is pretty much a cabinet shop. I remodeled our kitchen a couple of years ago and made the cabinets. I’ve made a number of cabinets and bookcases for our home and I am presently finishing up a welcome center for our new worship center.”

An adventurous spirit is another part of George. “A few years ago I fulfilled a desire I’ve had since a teen. I went skydiving, jumping out of a perfectly good airplane at 12,000 feet. I highly recommend it!”

When asked about a mentor, George said, “For the last two years I’ve been a part of a triad with non-GCI ministry leaders in Cincinnati. It is a peer group that we refer to as a “dream group.” We share our dreams, hearts, struggles and successes. It has had the greatest spiritual impact on me, more than anything I’ve ever done.”

When does George feel closest to God? “Other than being at the seashore, I feel closest to God when watching Nova or something on the Discovery channel about creation or the origin of the universe. The mystery and expanse of the universe fills me with awe for a God who is both the Creator and a loving Father. It reminds me that I have no comprehension of the future God has in store for his children.

Jason Richards

Here from GCI pastor Martin Manuel is an update on his grandson Jason (click here for the previous update).

Jason pictured one year ago.
Jason pictured last year

Jason is much improved since the last update. He no longer is on a ventilator, though he needs a lot of oxygen to support his weakened respiratory system. I’ve seen Facebook photos of his smile and thumbs up, showing that he is feeling better and relieving our hearts and bodies from the relentless pain we have been feeling. His doctors have determined that Legionnaires’ Disease is the cause of his infection. Where he encountered this rare bacterium is unknown; I have heard that only one other treatment case is currently on record in that part of Washington State.

Jason still has a way to go to fully recover. Hopefully he will be discharged soon with progress toward an improved appetite and resultant weight gain. We are praying for a lot, but mighty is He who answers!

Thanks so much for your prayers.

Exponential Conference

discipleshift2013Last week, over 75 GCI leaders joined with about 5,000 others at the Exponential Conference in Orlando, Florida. In addition, about 45,000 church leaders from 93 countries watched the conference on live video streamed over the internet. Those in Orlando from GCI included church planting teams, ministry developers, regional and district pastors and pastoral leaders from established churches. Several GCI leaders (pictured below) traveled to Orlando on behalf of GCI churches in the Caribbean, Latin and South America.

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New GCI pastor Justin Meier and his wife Laura Beth

Exponential has grown to be the largest gathering of church planters in North America (and possibly on earth). Its theme this year was Discipleshift, emphasizing the importance of recapturing the church’s Great Commission focus on multiplying mature disciples of Jesus who then disciple others.

The conference included day-long pre-conference seminars addressing topics related to church planting and transformation. The main conference had five plenary sessions and five workshop tracks, with dozens of selections in each track, all focused on one of the conference’s primary themes related to shifting to a more intentional focus on disciplemaking.

Here are comments from several GCI participants:

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Hands for Christ church plant team and Randy Bloom

This has been a wonderful, difference-making experience. It has helped me visualize what and how we can help our pastor make disciples.

WOW…. such a new experience and wonderful spiritual feeling to take home and share.

Such a worthwhile conference… so many resources to glean from!

Praise God for such information and the dedication shown for reaching people to become disciples of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In 2014, the Exponential Conference is titled, Seek and Save, Rethinking Evangelism. It will be held in Orlando on April 28-May 1. For further information, go to www.exponential.org.

A “digital access pass” to most of the Exponential 13 plenary sessions and workshops is available for $69 at www.exponential.org/extend/. Also, various e-books from Exponential speakers are available for free download at https://www.exponential.org/ebooks/. For summaries of key Exponential 13 messages go to http://blog.exponential.org/2013/05/shared-learnings-from-exponential-2013/#more-5953. For podcasts of Exponential conferences from previous years go to: http://feeds.feedburner.com/exponentialpodcast.

Shirley Faulkner

Here is an update from GCI elder Dexter Faulkner on the earlier prayer request for his wife Shirley.

Shirley and Dexter

Shirley is improving each day and is now able to walk with a cane. She still has slight numbness in her hands and is continuing with therapy. Thanks for all the cards, emails and prayers from around the world. They meant more than you’ll ever know.

Cards may be sent to:

Shirley Faulkner
7859 Wentworth St
Sunland, CA 91040-2201

Death of LaVerne Wyatt-Paige

We were saddened to learn that LaVerne Wyatt-Paige, beloved wife of GCI Phoenix pastor Michael Wyatt-Paige, died on April 24.

Many of us have been praying for her during her lengthy battle with cancer. God released her from that struggle and now she is with him. We will greatly miss her, though we look forward to seeing her again.

Cards may be sent to:

Michael Wyatt-Paige
1928 E Highland Ave #104 PMB 200
Phoenix, AZ 85016-4626

Gridleys’ 50th anniversary

GridleysGCI elder Barry Gridley and his wife Wendy are celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this week. They married on May 4, 1963 in England, where their families lived. They have since lived mostly in California.

Barry and Wendy send their warm thanks to all in GCI who have supported them with kindness and patience over these last 50 years.

Cards may be sent to:

Barry and Wendy Gridley
6332 Jack Hill Drive
Oroville, CA 95966-3812

Thailand & Bangladesh

This update is from Rod Matthews, GCI’s mission developer for SE Asia.

Death of Karen Elder

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Moolah Shi and Kushi

It is with deep sadness and concern for our Karen members in a camp in Thailand that I report the death of Moolah Shi on January 27 at the age of 72. He served the Karen members with dedication, humility and faithfulness for over 30 years. He is survived by his wife, Kushi and five children. He was baptized by John Halford in 1978, ordained a deacon in 1986 and an elder in 1996. Moolah Shi once served as an officer in the Karen National Union (KNU), a liberation movement in conflict with the Burmese army in his homeland of Myanmar. He was related through marriage to one of the top Karen generals and found himself in a difficult situation as he was called of God, came to understand the scriptures and developed a relationship with his Creator. He started reading The Plain Truth magazine in 1970 when a Baptist minister shared it with him. Ultimately, he and a number of associates in the KNU were discharged from the organization due to their hearts not being in the revolution.

With thousands of other Karen people, he found himself a refugee in Thailand, restricted to a corridor along the border with Myanmar, unable to gain Thai citizenship or equivalent benefits. His heart for his people and their welfare was demonstrated again when he became heavily involved with the Karen Refugee Committee set up to assist the Thai authorities in managing the refugee camps established along the border in Thailand and holding tens of thousands of mainly ethnic Karen people fleeing the fighting in Myanmar.

Karen campAs a result of this advantageous position, he was relatively free to come and go from the camp where our congregation was located. Through personal family circumstances he found himself able to live outside the camp, more easily coordinating with the church leadership and conducting church business as well as visiting other non-camp members in that area.

The camp congregation started with a foundation of ex-members of the KNU and their families and grew in numbers with a weekly attendance that at times reached about 80. In due course, some families were granted UN refugee status and were resettled overseas, and some were denied refugee status and remained stateless in the camp. In the last few years, the UN has made a concerted effort to resettle more Karen people in the hope that the refugee crisis along the border can finally be resolved. But as some are moved to new lives overseas, their places are often filled with economic refugees seeking a better life than what is available in Myanmar. And so today, our congregation still numbers around 50, with about half being children.

As pastor, Moolah Shi travelled to the camp regularly on a church-provided motorcycle to conduct services in our own church building, constructed on acquired land within the camp and built by the members with materials funded by the Australian churches. Southeast Asian senior pastor, Wong Mein Kong and I met with him in the nearby town of Maesot once each year and in most years were permitted to enter the camp to meet with our people and conduct worship services. I was always impressed that in spite of his remoteness, Moolah kept up with and embraced the doctrinal enlightenment in the church and, led by the Holy Spirit, provided humble, effective and faith-filled leadership in spite of the church’s difficult journey and our Karen family’s own physical deprivations. He was highly respected among all the Karen people and the Thais who knew and worked with him. He set a wonderful example of Christlikeness—patient, meek, faithful, encouraging and always dedicated to his people. Please pray for us as we move into a new phase of pastoral care for the congregation there. Actually, we might one day be thanking God that the congregation closes, which would mean that the refugee camps are no longer needed there. May God speed that day.

Bangladesh

I recently returned from visiting several of our groups and the mission center of GCI’s mission arm in Bangladesh, the Bengali Evangelical Association (BEA), accompanying its director, Dr. John Biswas. BEA supporter and southern California member, Ron Boyer joined us.

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John talks with book seller

Our trip by auto takes us to a ferry across the Padma River (the Ganges in India). On the ferry, John Biswas tells a young bookseller (see picture at right) that he too once sold books to fund his education. When asked if he had heard of Jesus, the young man said he had—but all he knew about him was that he was a Christian!  John offers him the opportunity to come with us—right there and then—and be employed in the physical care of our mission center with the promise of food and lodging and education. But the young man can’t bring himself to accept. So John buys a few of his books and gives him some extra taka (the local currency) with instruction to save it for his education—and the young man moves on.

Congregation in Anandapur
Congregation in Anandapur

Late in the day we detour off the main road to visit the congregation at Anandapur. Nearly 60 people, mainly women and children since the men are working in the fields, are waiting to welcome us dressed in their beautiful best. We are honored with flowers and food and give short messages of encouragement before we move on. The next day there are now strikes in Barisal and we are advised to stay put for another day. That evening we meet with a little group of Christians in the hotel. It’s a delight to talk about the resurrection for a short while. They surprise me with a cake and gift celebrating my birthday two days earlier! I am struck with what a privilege it is to be visiting brothers and sisters in Christ in one of the most challenging and remote environments in which to be a minority Christian.

Batajor
Batajor

On Friday we set out early to visit two rural congregations I haven’t seen before: Batjor and Bagdha. At Batajor we were presented with flowers, a welcome song and a graceful dance. We brought Bengali Bibles and offered short encouraging messages. It’s amazing and humbling that God has chosen us to plant congregations of poor yet very responsive Bengali people in these remote rural locations in southern Bangladesh.

Building (1)Later at the BEA mission center in the village of Sathsimulia, we were honored with a shower of flower petals as we entered the facility through an honor guard of members and workers. We are led to the chapel building for a short service and welcome ceremony. The compound is a hive of activity with construction under way for the new building that replaces the old original “Canadian” building which had to be demolished due to cyclone damage. A large part of the compound is taken up with piles of building materials as construction has reached the second level of the three-story building. It will stand as a partner to the Herman L. Hoeh building and will provide needed facilities and accommodations for the training of nurses’ aides and gospel workers and other outreach activities emanating from BEA’s mission center. Our sincere thanks to the many who have donated toward construction of this building, including many individuals,  congregations in Canada, our denominational headquarters in Glendora and our Australian office.

On our return to Dhaka, we met about 30 gospel workers from several of our groups so John Biswas could have opportunity to discuss plans for the year ahead, evaluate projects and assess the means to continue the outreach and evangelism in a wise and appropriate way in a most challenging environment. I encouraged them to let their already bright light shine.

Mike Rasmussen

Mike and Juli
Mike and Juli

“I grew up at a time where kids could be kids,” said Mike Rasmussen, who serves as an associate regional pastor and district pastor for GCI Church Administration and Development and is the senior pastor of GCI’s congregation in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. “I remember leaving in the morning on my bicycle and not coming home until it began to get dark. My friends and I would build forts and make ramps to jump our bikes. We would spend time making and setting off explosives. We’d spend the morning making the explosive devices and then spend the afternoon setting them off. Mind you, this was at a time when you wouldn’t be thrown in jail for such activities by Homeland Security. I would have told you I had a normal childhood, but as I have become an adult myself with two sons of my own, I realize it may not have been that ‘normal.’”

Mike’s family moved to Southern California when Mike was two years old so Mike’s dad could work in the Printing Department of WCG. “I grew up in Pasadena and attended our denomination’s elementary school, grades 1-7. When Imperial Schools closed, I attended a local high school. I wanted to be an architect and so after graduating from high school, I attended Pasadena City College. However, after spending a semester totally frustrated by the number of young adults who seemed to be more interested in challenging the professors’ authority than in actually learning, I decided to step out. My plan was to attend the University of California and continue my studies.”

As is often the case, our plans don’t coincide with God’s plans. Mike explains: “While I was between colleges, my mother began to nag me (love you Mom!) about applying to Ambassador College, our denomination’s college. I assured her that I had absolutely no interest in attending Ambassador, as I had no desire to be a pastor or anything even remotely like it. God sure has a sense of humor! Because of her persistence, I finally agreed I would apply and ‘when’ I was rejected, we wouldn’t talk about it again. She agreed. Several months later, I received a letter and much to my chagrin, I had been accepted. I spent the next three years doing all I could to ensure I would never be on any ‘future pastor list’ the College may have been putting together.”

Mike decided he wanted to be a salesman for 3M’s dental division during his junior year at Ambassador. “I found out where they were holding a meeting for some of their top executives and key salesmen in downtown Los Angeles. I put together a resume and sneaked into this closed-door meeting. I had researched who the National Sales Director was and waited in ambush for him outside the meeting room. When they went on break, I approached him and handed him my resume. I told him that if he hired me that in three years I would be one of his top ten salesmen and in five years, I would be his number one salesman. I was such an arrogant little jerk! He asked me if I had any sales experience or if I had taken any business classes. I told him no, but that I was getting my degree in liberal arts with a major in theology. He looked a little perplexed. He told me to take some business classes and to get a job that would build my sales experience. He then asked me how I got into this private meeting. I just smiled and shrugged my shoulders.”

Again, God had different plans for Mike. “At the beginning of my senior year, I was notified by my boss that Mr. Tkach Sr., the Director of Church Administration, wanted to see me in his office. I protested and assured my boss that nothing good could come out of such a meeting. As the day went on, I decided I better go ahead and show up for the meeting—I wasn’t completely stupid! While in the meeting, one of the first things Mr. Tkach asked me was ‘what are your plans after graduation?’ I was absolutely thrilled he asked. I exploded with all my plans to work for 3M and how I had it all arranged. He looked at me—in a way that only he could—and  said, ‘Let me ask you one question Mike. What would you rather do—make money or serve God?’ I couldn’t believe it; how could he ask me such a question? I took a moment, which seemed like a lifetime, and I said, ‘Well if I have to make a choice between the two—I would have to say, serve God.’ He said ‘I am glad you said that—you start tomorrow morning!’ Did I mention that God has a sense of humor?

“I worked for Mr. Tkach Sr. for twelve years and then when he passed away I worked for his son Joe Tkach Jr. for several years. Joe Jr. didn’t have the same needs as his father, so in 1998 the decision was made that we would move to Oklahoma City to help pastor the congregation there. We have been pastoring there ever since and loving it!”

The Rasmussen family
The Rasmussen family

The “we” Mike is referring to is his wife Juli and their two sons, Grant and Kurt. “Six months after college graduation, I married the love of my life, Juli. We have been married now for 28 years. We have been blessed with two amazing sons. Grant our oldest, age 23, is currently at the University of Oklahoma and pursuing a degree in the medical field. Kurt, our youngest, age 21, is also at OU, now in his junior year. We do not have any grandchildren yet. We are looking forward to that phase of life, even though neither one of us looks old enough!”

Rasmussens 2Mike and Juli met in college while skydiving. “Now both of our boys are licensed skydivers as well. Grant is a skydiving instructor and tandem master, which means that he takes passengers who are attached to him. We enjoy the time together jumping and sharing the sport with others. During the summer, Grant took his mom on a tandem skydive and Kurt and I were able to join them on the plane and jump out. It was the first time the four of us were able to jump out of the same plane. Twenty or more of the members of our congregation have made one or more skydives. Interestingly enough, we have had a number of new members join our church family from the Drop Zone.”

Asked to elaborate on Juli, Mike shared the following: “Juli has a full-time job at a local Christian Daycare. She takes care of babies—newborn to one-year-old—and absolutely loves it. Anyone who knows Juli knows she is serving in her giftedness and passion. Even though she has a full-time job, she is active serving within our congregation, coordinating one of our praise teams, serving on the women’s ministry team, helping teach children’s church, directing our Crosswalk junior camp, helping clean the church, etc. etc. etc.”

When asked what he loves most about being a pastor and being part of GCI, Mike said, “I love sharing the good news of who God really is and who we are, as his dearly loved children. I enjoy the variety that comes with the job as well; no two days are exactly alike. Mike’s favorite pastoral moments? “Probably when I see the lights go on in someone’s thinking and they realize who they are in Christ. I also love being able to do camp ministry where you get to work with teens and young adults. They are so amazing and a blast to be around – at least most of the time.”

Mike sky divingSpeaking about GCI, Mike said, “I am thankful for the journey that God has taken us on. I wouldn’t want to go through it again, mind you, but I know God has used it to grow us and teach us who he is and who he isn’t. I also love that we have the freedom to follow the lead of the Holy Spirit. Also the fact that we have come to realize each congregation is unique, with different gifts and strengths. We also understand that each congregation has a unique way in which they have been called to serve their neighborhood and community.”

Mike said he feels closest to God when he skydives. “I feel closest when I am falling at 120 miles an hour or when I am wing suiting, which is when you wear a jumpsuit that’s like a flying squirrel. In free fall, you have a unique perspective of God’s creation and his blessings.”  This ties in with Mike’s passion: “To be able to love on people and share the good news of Jesus Christ and also jump out of perfectly good airplanes.—I don’t think it gets any better than that!”